[gpaw-users] Convergence of eigenstate and density

Jens Jørgen Mortensen jensj at fysik.dtu.dk
Mon May 2 09:46:35 CEST 2011


On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 09:20 +0200, Jun Yan wrote:
> Hi, Jens Jørgen, 
> 
>    How many extra bands will be enough ? 

Try 40 more.

Jens Jørgen

> Jun
> 
> Jens Jørgen Mortensen wrote: 
> > On Sat, 2011-04-30 at 13:13 +0200, Jun Yan wrote:
> >   
> > > Well, I dont quite understand your question. 
> > > I use
> > >                 convergence={
> > >                  'density': 1.0e-6,
> > >                  'eigenstates': 1.0e-4,
> > >                  'bands': nband}
> > > 
> > > and nband = 260 while 80 occupied bands are included.
> > >     
> > 
> > RMM-DIIS has a hard time converging the highest bands, so make sure you
> > have more bands than you want converged.
> > 
> > Jens Jørgen
> > 
> >   
> > > Jun
> > > 
> > > Jess Wellendorff wrote: 
> > >     
> > > > ok, but are you sure you are actually converging the unoccupied states? 
> > > > (perhaps a stupid question)
> > > > 
> > > > Jess
> > > > 
> > > > Den 30-04-2011 12:26, Jun Yan skrev:
> > > >   
> > > >       
> > > > > Hi, Jess,
> > > > > 
> > > > >      I did that, its just I am not sure whether I can lower the
> > > > > convergence criteria for eigenstate to as low as 1e-5. It would be much
> > > > > better if the occupied states are converged with high criteria and
> > > > > unoccupied ones can choose low criteria.
> > > > > 
> > > > > All the best,
> > > > > Jun
> > > > > 
> > > > > Jess Wellendorff wrote:
> > > > >     
> > > > >         
> > > > > > Hi jun,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I do not know about the interpretation of the convergence for
> > > > > > eigenstates vs. density you observe, but I do know that it is easy to
> > > > > > change the convergence criteria:
> > > > > > ********
> > > > > > conv = {'eigenstates':1.e-5, 'density':1.e-4, 'energy':1.e-4}
> > > > > > calc = GPAW(....., convergence=conv, .......)
> > > > > > ********
> > > > > > where any of the arguments to 'convergence' may be left out (leaving
> > > > > > it to default value).
> > > > > > It appears to me that your calculation has definately converged in
> > > > > > terms of electronic structure, but for some reason this happens for a
> > > > > > changes in the eigenstates larger than the default criterion for
> > > > > > convergence.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > cheers,
> > > > > > Jess W.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Den 30-04-2011 11:31, Jun Yan skrev:
> > > > > >       
> > > > > >           
> > > > > > > Hi, developers,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >        What does it mean if the density is converged while the eigenstate
> > > > > > > can't converge, as shown in the following ?  The default convergence
> > > > > > > criterion is   'density': 1.0e-4, 'eigenstates': 1.0e-9. Can I change
> > > > > > > the convergence of eigenstate to 1e-4 ? The system here is Al on Si
> > > > > > > surface, with 80 occupied and 180 unoccupied bands using rmm-dis
> > > > > > > eigensolver. The mixing is mixer=Mixer(0.05, 5, weight=100.0) and dzp
> > > > > > > basis is used  for initialization of orbitals. It takes around 40 scf
> > > > > > > steps to converge using the default criterion for eigensolver CG
> > > > > > > although takes much longer time. This is to test whether rmmdis is able
> > > > > > > to get reasonable unoccupied bands compared to CG, but the scf step can
> > > > > > > never converge...
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > All the best,
> > > > > > > Jun
> > > > > > > 
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